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RE: [lojban-beginners] Re: web-page as {seltidysfe} ({se tcidu sefta})



Agreed. The Oxford Concise in front of me defines page in English to mean 'one side of leaf of book, etc', which seems pretty much identical to the below definition. Basically, what's wrong with using {papri} when the argument presented against using it is based on a definition which is practically identical to that of the word 'page' itself?
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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: web-page as {seltidysfe} ({se tcidu sefta})

This just seems wrong. Any word can be extended metaphorically. 

stevo

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:26 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
{papri} - x1 is a [physical] page/leaf of book/document/bound mass of pages x2.
So it doesn't refer to page in general.


On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:24:01 PM UTC+4, junpen wrote:
coi la gleki
.i zoi zoi

I call "page" in general for {papri} and a physical sheet of paper with a written text for {bofpapri}.

zoi
.i mi se ctuca fi di'u gi'e tugni fi ri

.i mi'e la junpen mu'o

Den torsdagen den 23:e februari 2012 kl. 18:52:53 UTC+9 skrev gleki:
We had a discussion yesterday with one Russian guy interested in lojban.
What we decided is that {kibypapri} is not what it's intended for.
Our eye scans some surface and reads information from it. This is the most general definition of any written text or media embedded into it.
A web-page is what can be called {kibro seltidysfe} as it may contain not only text and it can be not only two-dimensional (in future, perhaps).
On the other hand {pelji seltidysfe} might be a good term for a sheet of paper with a written text.

Note that {kibypapri} has two noticeable bugs.
1. it references to {papri} that can be only physical
2. we can say either {papri} or {kibypapri} but not "page" in general

One more note.
{ckupau} is a page of a book and therefore doesn't apply to web-pages which can be single.

Den torsdagen den 23:e februari 2012 kl. 18:52:53 UTC+9 skrev gleki:
We had a discussion yesterday with one Russian guy interested in lojban.
What we decided is that {kibypapri} is not what it's intended for.
Our eye scans some surface and reads information from it. This is the most general definition of any written text or media embedded into it.
A web-page is what can be called {kibro seltidysfe} as it may contain not only text and it can be not only two-dimensional (in future, perhaps).
On the other hand {pelji seltidysfe} might be a good term for a sheet of paper with a written text.

Note that {kibypapri} has two noticeable bugs.
1. it references to {papri} that can be only physical
2. we can say either {papri} or {kibypapri} but not "page" in general

One more note.
{ckupau} is a page of a book and therefore doesn't apply to web-pages which can be single.

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