Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Just having trouble putting a sentence together in general... Think I figured it out

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:56 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:

doi .aionys. Can you justify that prescription?

It's not a prescription. It's not a position. It's the definition of le.

le as mentioned in the following documents:

jbovlaste : "non-veridical descriptor: the one(s) described as ..." {gadri lo selbri fo le du'u sinxa ro se skicu be le cusku bei le te cusku bei la'e vo'e}

CLL 6.2 : "le LE the, the one(s) described as"
le zarci
one-or-more-specific-things-each-of-which-I-describe-as being-a-market
the market

xorlo : "le is used for particular things you have in mind."

pe'i That's malgli, but I speak Russian fluently, and that my account
for my opinion.

It certainly does, since that is the definition of le.

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> Use {le} when you are referring to something you specifically have in mind.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 8:52 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I haven't heard of a good consensus of when to use {le}.
>>
>> My impression is that {lo} should be the default unless you have
>> reason stronger than specificity. *ba'e* {le} is not "the".
>>
>> I personally only use it when I want to emphasize the fact that the
>> sumti may not technically fit the selbri, mu'i {le cribe} to refer to
>> a teddy-bear; unlike pre-xorlo, however, {lo cribe} is unquestionably
>> still correct in that case.
>>
>> I guess I might also use it to clarify/emphasize subjectivity: {lo
>> xagrai cmaxi'a} might not have a clear referent, but if I say {le
>> xagrai cmaxi'a}, I'm clearly talking about Rainbow Dash.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
>> > On Monday, March 05, 2012 21:49:33 RexScientiarum wrote:
>> >> If I was was talking about a specific microbe I was observing I could
>> >> use {le} right?
>> >
>> > Yes, and likewise if you're using a specific microscope. Use of articles
>> > in
>> > Lojban is somewhat different from use of articles in English (or French
>> > or any
>> > other language that has articles).
>> >
>> > Pierre
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