[lojban-beginners] Re: How to say 'spork'?

[ianek <janek37@gmail.com>]

On 14 Mar, 20:54, iesk <pa....@gmx.de> wrote:
> ianek:
>
> >{mucfro} or {frosmuci}. The former is shorter, but has an unpleasant
> >consonant cluster. You don't normally need things like joi, jev or bor
> >inside lujvos, because you can always define them as you like.
>
> You are right, I didn’t think of that. On the other hand, I feel a
> kind of psychological resistance against a lujvo which *looks* like it
> said 'spoon-type of fork' (or vice versa). The fun about sporks is
> that they are *both* (or at least that is my pretension). Hm…

I once had that resistance too. But a lujvo has little to do with
tanru. For example, a rokci prenu has to be a person, but a rokpre may
legally be a statue and not a person, if you define it so. And it
sounds much better than "prero'i" which would be more accurate for
tanru (prenu rokci, because a statue is a prenu-type-of rokci).

> remod:
>
> >It sounds odd to have a fu'ivla for borrowing a word from Lojban itself! :)
>
> Yeah. But there seem to be precedents, or at least one:http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/sorpekaHow accepted that is, I don'ŧ
> know. It took me a little getting used to, but I think it is a nice
> idea, frankly. I recall someone arguing in favour of calling those (or
> all fu'ivla?) 'zi'evla' rather than 'fu'ivla'.
>
> >What about borrowing it as a cmevla? {.spork.}
>
> Possible, but a bit clumsy, isn't it? Also, why 'spork' (and not
> 'gefl' or whatever)?
>
> Cordially,
> iesk

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