I want Lojban to be the best in every feature, not most features. It's not a competition.
The victory over other logical projects must be total.
The question is similar to recent discussion about {kakne} - x1 is capable of {x2} which accomplishes the requirement of pivotal sentences whereas many other gismu do not.
{mi cpedu lonu do rinsa [ko'a,zo'e,lo prenu, etc.]} is not the answer. It's too ambiguous. Where is x3 ? Who are you asking this for ?
It's like {mi kakne lo nu do rinsa mi} - an impractical solution that could be logically possible.
Compare with {djica} - {mi djica lo nu do rinsa mi} - that *is* within the baseline.
The major flaw in Lojban is that it cannot compactly express "I ask you to greet me". You have to say
{mi cpedu [fe] lo nu do rinsa [ku] [fi] do}
And here is the lack of compactness (two valsi {do} instead of one).
Even English (not Pandunia !) is better. "I ask you to greet me" - absolutely no need to repeat the word "you".
SO THE MAJOR FLAW OF LOJBAN IS THE LACK OF CONNECTION BETWEEN SUMTI in many gismu.
I can see only one solution.
{mi cpedu fi do poi rinsa} therefore completely ignoring x2 (the act of ignoring at least won't break the baseline).
But I'm not sure whether it preserves the needed meaning.
On Friday, March 16, 2012 10:31:11 AM UTC+4, Oleksii Melnyk wrote:
On 15 March 2012 18:10, gleki
<gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
So the second "sumti" ti in mi peti ti becomes the first "sumti" of the next construction "ti tshau ta".
I wonder whether it's possible to do so in Lojban. May {be} or {.i ri} can do the trick
>Pandunia ... lacks other complex grammatical structures ...
while lojban mandates them. So, in that example, it's hard to ?factor? the sumti out of the abstraction. In some specific cases you can get close enough with:
1. common set of sumti with 2 «bridi tails» - with reversed order, common comes first
2. NOI, with the hardcoded semantic
mi'e lex mu'o