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Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Is it possible to completely get rid of {ku} in speech ?
I speak Russian.
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:38 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's still in Russian. And it's not complete. After finishing the draft I'll
> translate it to English.
>
>
> On Thursday, March 22, 2012 3:02:42 AM UTC+4, .arpis. wrote:
>>
>> I'm curious. Could you link to the textbook?
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:35 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > OK. Actually our textbook already uses lo ... ku instead of lo.
>> > I considered changing it to lo & cu but let it remain as it is.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:30:59 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Agreed. While cu is a very versatile cmavo, and is quite frequently
>> >> used
>> >> specifically because of this, I doubt there is a single jbopre among us
>> >> who
>> >> does not think that teaching terminators is /extremely/ important,
>> >> /especially/ in the very beginning.
>> >>
>> >> When cu is eventually introduced, it's function is made much more clear
>> >> and understandable as a result, as well.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:14 AM, selpa'i <m3o@plasmatix.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> You may think it's easier without ku, but it will cause problems for
>> >>> the
>> >>> students later on. I strongly recommend teaching full terminators from
>> >>> the
>> >>> beginning on. Teach how to elide them a bit later. Trust the people
>> >>> here who
>> >>> tell you to teach terminators. We have a lot of experience teaching
>> >>> beginners and this method has proven effective again and again.
>> >>>
>> >>> Am 21.03.2012 07:54, schrieb gleki:
>> >>>
>> >>> My point was to teach in the form of
>> >>> {lo broda cu brode lo brodi lo brodo be lo brodu}
>> >>> In this case student can learn only "lo".
>> >>> Otherwise they will have to learn
>> >>> {lo broda ku brode lo brodi ku lo brodo be lo brodu [ku ku]}
>> >>> which is a bit more bulky and harder to understand.
>> >>>
>> >>> {lo} without looks like "a" or "the" in English.
>> >>> {lo ... ku} looks like a programming language which is not easy for
>> >>> everyone.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Monday, March 19, 2012 10:35:01 AM UTC+4, gleki wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Is it possible to completely get rid of {ku} in speech ? Can we
>> >>>> rearrange words in extreme cases and use other cmavo like {kei} and
>> >>>> {cu} ?
>> >>>
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>> >> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>> >>
>> >> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
>> >> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
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