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Hello Am 09.05.2012 14:55, schrieb Álvaro Vallejo: Hi, 1) {te se te} is three words. You probably know what {se} and {te} do individually. Here's what happens in the case of {te se te}: broda = x1 broda x2 x3 te broda = x3 broda x2 x1 se te broda = x2 broda x3 x1 te se te broda = x1 broda x3 x2 In short: the x2 and x3 places are switched. This is always the case when you have SEi SEj SEi: The xi and xj places are exchanged 2) I've not been able to find the rules that governs a) clustering cmavo, e.g. .ibabo, .iku'i, leza'i, etc... b) omitting the initial period (e.g. i, ibabo, iku'i). Are these rules written somewhere or do they come from usage (I don't think so). cmavo can always be clustered, but many prefer not to do this because it obscures the constructs, for example you thought tesete was one word. I personally discourage clustering for this reason. The initial period can never be omitted before vowels (if they are phonetically vowels. {ui} = [wi], so no dot is necessary). Hope this helps, mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- .i da xamgu ganse fi no na'ebo lo risna .i lo vajrai cu nonselji'u lo kanla-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. |