On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Jonathan Jones
<eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
It's not /a/ word, it's three.
se switched the x1 and the x2, te switches the x1 and the xe
se switches .... and the x3
I really need to proofread better.
so, perform each switch in sequence:
ko'a cpedu ko'e ko'i
ko'i te cpedu ko'e ko'a
ko'e tese cpedu ko'i ko'a
ko'a tesete cpedu ko'i ko'e
Honestly, that seems like a lot of work just to avoid a kei.
Without using SE to swap places, the same bridi would be:
{.i mi ba cpedu lenu klama gi'e cpacu le selponse be cy. kei lo prenu}
"I will request 'coming and getting his things' from someone."
(^ Is a bit of a mash-up between literal and colloquial, because the word order isn't normal for English, making it read funny.)
As far as I know, the only rule about cmavo clustering is that you can't do it if the combination takes the form of a gismu, lujvo, fu'ivla, or other predicate-word (brivla), but otherwise it's personal choice whether or not to cluster them. Some clusters are fairly common, and all clusters where the second word modifies the first, such as in .uicai or .iepei,, are standard practice.
As far as omitting denpabu, when in text there is any combination of ' ' and '.', it is permissible to omit all of '.' and ' ' except one, such as {la.djan. .uisai xruti .i mi mutce gleki} could be written as {la djan uisai i mi mutce gleki}, {la.djan.uisai xruti.i mi mutce gleki}, etc. I typically only omit either when there is a semantic(?) link between them, and I always favor '.' over ' ', so my rendering would be {la.djan.uisai xruti .i mi mutce gleki}. My reason for choosing to omit ' ' and not '.' is because when speaking, those pauses /must/ /still/ /be/ /"said"/, and keeping the '.' in the written serves as a reminder of when you /must/ pause.
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Álvaro Vallejo
<avallejor@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Three questions:
1) I found another word that I am not able to make a sense: "tesete". Here the context:
.i mi ba tesete cpedu lo prenu lenu klama gi'e cpacu le selponse be cy. li'u
which is translated as:
"I'll get someone to come by for his things."
Could someone explain this term?
2) I've not been able to find the rules that governs a) clustering cmavo, e.g. .ibabo, .iku'i, leza'i, etc... b) omitting the initial period (e.g. i, ibabo, iku'i). Are these rules written somewhere or do they come from usage (I don't think so).
Thanks in advance.
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