.u'i
Am 10.05.2012 21:36, schrieb Michael Turniansky:
Not to mention that the CLL specifically SAYS
that "uV" and "iV" require a pause before them. (Chapter 4.2)
You are right, Miles, "Some here seem to lack reading
comprehension"
--gejyspa
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:53
AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:04 AM,
Miles Forster <m3o@plasmatix.com>
wrote:
.y bu
is not "u". .u bu is. And the u in ui is not
pronounced [u] but [w] which *is* a
consonant. Some here seem to lack reading
comprehension. It's annoying to argue with
people who won't listen to what the other
person is saying.
Whether or not something is a vowel depends
on the way it's pronounced, not the way it's
written.
I'm sorry, Miles, but you're wrong. There are no
consonants in the Lojban word ".ui". Regardless
of it's pronunciation as the leading vowel of a
diphthong, u is still a vowel.
And just so we're clear, a diphthong is a sound
represented by a combination of two vowels. In
Lojban, the diphthong "ui" is pronounced as in
the English word "we", but that does not
suddenly make the "u" in it a consonant.
mu'o
Am 10.05.2012 02:12, schrieb Michael
Turniansky:
It is, and it
always does require a pause in
front of it. Miles is wrong.
--gejyspa
On Wed,
May 9, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Álvaro
Vallejo <avallejor@gmail.com>
wrote:
.uesai
- "The initial period can
never be omitted before
vowels (if they are phonetically
vowels. {ui} = [wi], so no
dot is necessary). "
- "ui does not begin in
a vowel. Therefore, no
denpa bu is needed."
Well... I am really shocked!
How is it that "u" is not a
vowel? It IS a vowel or I
should start learning again
Lojban from zero: it's name
is indeed ybu, isn't it?
(Chapter 1 of Lojban for
beginners, Chapter 2 of
CLL)...
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