[lojban-beginners] Re: pluja-sampu

[ianek <janek37@gmail.com>]

This is the place to gather such issues:
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-editpage.php?page=BPFK+Section%3A+gismu+Issues

I've just added the pluja-sampu issue. If you know about some issue
not listed there, please add it.

mu'o mi'e ianek

On May 11, 5:54 pm, Michael Turniansky <mturnian...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Miles Forster <m...@plasmatix.com> wrote:
> >  The question was: "I just found out that the two gismu {sampu} and
> > {pluja} have a different number of sumit places. To me it seems that these
> > two words are antonyms, so could it be that one place is superfluous (in
> > one definition) or that one is lacking (in the other definition)?"
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> > —mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
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> > Am 11.05.2012 17:40, schrieb Michael Turniansky:
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> >   I knew the language was Esperanto, but I am curious what the original
> > question was.  Because your answer appears to imply that pluja and sampu
> > are near synonyms, when in fact they are antonyms.  Or was the question why
> > one is not simply tol- the other?
> >               --gejyspa
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> > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:29 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytl...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> >>  On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeo...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> >>> What language is that, out of curiosity?
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> >>  It's Esperanto.
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> >>  stevo
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> >>> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:01 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytl...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> >>>> Jes, la du gismuoj estas tre similaj unu al la alia. Sed tio ne suficxe
> >>>> gravas por sxangxi la difinojn, kiuj estas cxiukaze nesxangxeblaj.
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> >>>>  (Yes, the two gismu "sampu" and "pluja" are very similar to each
> >>>> other. But that is not sufficiently important to change the definitions,
> >>>> which are in any case baselined.)
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> >>>>  stevo
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> >>>> 2012/5/10 A J <sei...@mail.ru>
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> >>>>>  Saluton,
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> >>>>>  Mi dume lernas gismu-ojn kaj trovas ke du gismu SAMPU kaj PLUJA
> >>>>> havas diversan kvanton de sumti-lokoj.
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> >>>>> Ŝajnas al mi ke la du vortoj estas antonimoj unu de la alia. Ĉu eble  unu
> >>>>> sumti-loko estas superflua aŭ unu nenecesa?
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