On 2 September 2012 13:47, gleki <
gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
> {loi prenu cu sruri lo dinju} - why not lo gunma be lo prenu cu sruri lo dinju?
correct, you would think the former is correct too.
{loi} and {lo'i} are just shortcuts for LAhE or longer bridi expressions.
That's a comparison between different ways of expressing a mass,
whereas "Where should I use sets and where should I use masses?" is
asking for a comparison between set expressions & mass expressions in
the same places:
( loi / lo'i ) prenu cu sruri lo dinju -- which gadri?
Sets have no representation in reality and exist in a somewhat ethereal realm alongside bridi (lo du'u broda) and text (lu ma drani danfu). Therefore they can't surround anything.
> {lo'i tirxu cu cmalu} - why not so'u tirxu?
Do you mean
"Why {lo'i tirxu cu cmalu} and not {so'u tirxu}?"
or
"Why {lo'i tirxu cu cmalu} and not {so'u tirxu cu cmalu}?"
or
"Why {lo'i tirxu cu cmalu} and not {loi tirxu cu so'u mei}?"
?
Sets can be big or small. They have a cardinality, i.e. a size, which is comparable. This leads to the drastic difference between {lo'i tirxu cu cmalu} and {lo tirxu cu cmalu}: {lo'i tirxu cu cmalu} says simply that the *set* of tigers is small and says *nothing* about the actual tigers, whereas {lo tirxu cu cmalu} (regardless of any quantifiers) says that the tigers are each small. You can have a small set of enormous tigers in the same way that you can have a large set of tiny ones.
mu'o
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