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Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Animal noises



3  Make it a quotation
        .i lu uufuuf li'u

I meant...
. i lo'u uufuuf le'u
...per .arpis suggestion.

On Sunday, September 9, 2012 9:13:59 AM UTC-6, Adam Milligan wrote:
Wow!  Thanks all.  Looking at these suggestions I think I like 'uuf' for my dog sound.  (I honestly wasn't even aware of 'uu' as a diphthong...I told you I was new to this language).  So now I am left with a number of option for constructing it.  Do I...

1.  Just say it.  
        .i uufuuf
2.  Call it an onomatopoeia
        .i  sa'ei uufuuf
3  Make it a quotation
        .i lu uufuuf li'u
4.  Some other option?

Again, I really appreciate all your help.

Adam 

On Sunday, September 9, 2012 3:27:09 AM UTC-6, tijlan wrote:
"Woof!" isn't always a noise. Many non-human expressions are still
cognitive products and represent something in a non-random way. They
can have meanings and are different from non-cognitive sounds such as
"Splash!".

"Woof!" may not have a layered syntax or an argument structure, which
is analogous to Lojban's observatives (selbri-only expressions). An
observative with an avalent (zero-argument) brivla could work much as
"Woof!", in my opinion.

If we were to create a brivla for each animal exression, probably we
would have to tap into the expandability of fu'ivla, much like we did
for certain ISO codes:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai4mbIPr2PUwdENVckVaOTJLbVdGVE5SeGJ0MTBTbGc
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai4mbIPr2PUwdGNYUFhrdmV1cmpLeVVQZkNSU3dBYUE

We could have a similar list of expressional sounds using some kind of
indicative prefixes. For example:

cmo,ufu / gerku,uu (Woof!)
cmonkua / datkakua (Quack!)
cmomiau / mlatumiau (Meow!)

molxisi / sincexisi (Hiss!)

zbi,onki / xarju,onki (Oink!)

These would all be zero-argument and compatible with {lu ... li'u}.


mu'o

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