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Re: [lojban-beginners] I think I can use "kau" to express Japanese "ga" and "wa"



coi

{kau} is only used inside abstractions to make indirect questions.

However, your intuition is right about placement of the particle. The cmavo you want to use for this is {xu}.

{.i do xu klama} "Is it you who goes?" (as opposed to someone else)
{.i do klama xu} "Are you *going*?" (as opposed to doing something else)

In both cases, the answer can be {na go'i} or {go'i}.

{.i do xu klama} "Is it you who goes?" {.i na go'i .i lo mamta ku klama} "No, my mother is going."
{.i do klama xu} "Are you *going*?" {.i na go'i .i mi ca citka} "No, I'm eating now."

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

On 11 October 2012 17:21, .iocikun.juj. <yoshikuni.jujo@gmail.com> wrote:
coi rodo

I'm sorry that I have bad English skill.
Please forgive it.

English "I go" is "watashi ga iku" or "watashi wa iku" in Japanese.

Who goes? I go. -> watashi ga iku
What do you do? I go. -> watashi wa iku

The difference is listener's knowledge.

If listener knows that someone go but doesn't know that who go, speaker say "watashi ga iku".
If listener knows that speaker do something but doesn't know that what does speaker do, speaker say "watashi wa iku".

"watashi ga iku" and "watashi wa iku" is different at listener's knowledge.

I think I can use "kau" to express the difference.

"watashi ga iku" is "mi kau klama" and
"watashi wa iku" is "mi klama kau".

I think this usage of "kau" can be more general.
The "kau" can express listener's knowledge.

Is it right?
I think it is very good definition of "kau".

ki'e
mi'e .iocikun.juj.

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