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Re: [lojban-beginners] "Should" and "would"



  I'm not really ready to concede your contention that "abstractions are by default not asserted"  True, in some cases they can be implications, like "mi terve'u ba lo nu mi catlu le skina" (I will buy after I watch the movie") If I never finish watching the movie (or never even started watching one), I will never go shopping. But in other cases they are quite definitely asserted: "bai lo nu carvi kei mi ca stali lo nenri" (Forced by the rain, I am staying inside).  I am certainly asserting that it is raining, or the sentence is pretty well meaningless.

   Nevertheless, I did one to correct one aspect of my post.  I missed the "mi" at the beginning of the sentence in question, "mi va'o lo nu mi jipci cu na kuckla lo dargu", so my translation should have read, "Since I am a chicken, I will not cross the road".

                --gejyspa

On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 1:50 PM, selpa'i <m3o@plasmatix.com> wrote:
Am 09.11.2012 19:41, schrieb Michael Turniansky:

   I disagree that da'i is not needed below.  Without it, the sentence
reads "Since I am I chicken, there is no road crossing."

No, it does not (necessarily) mean that. Abstractions are by default not asserted.
You can get your meaning explicitly by using da'i nai, but if context is strong enough, you can get away without that. Still, the default is that it is not asserted.

mu'o mi'e selpa'i


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