Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: memrise simplified gismu {dukse} vs {zmadu} definition

[Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>]

On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 5:11 PM, mudri <jammyatjammy@gmail.com> wrote:

Can I add something? I notice that {jibni} has been given a simplified translation that reads something like "similar, close in properties". For a while, I guessed at {simsa}, since it seems to fit that translation remarkably well (better, if I've not misunderstood). In fact, what is the difference between these two?

The full definitions are almost exactly the same, too, which is why my simplied definition (the ones used in Memrise) are so close. The words are almost exactly the same in meaning.

From the notes (in simsa), I'd say that two Golden Delicious apples can be both simsa and jibni, a picture (or painting) is simsa (assuming it's of something that exists in real life, like a landscape or still life), and a length of string which is .01 cm shorter than another string is jibni.

On Tuesday, 14 August 2012 12:40:40 UTC+1, kamisori wrote:

Hello, i have quite alot trouble keeping those two apart.

I propose to change {zmadu}s definition to "x1 is more than or exceeds x2 in x3 by amount x4" hereby it would be easier to memorise its meaning, because to me the similarity of "x1 exceeds or is more than x2 in x3 by amount x4" to "x1 is an excess of x2 by standard x3" is hindering my learning effort.

What do you guys think?

.u'i On the other hand, of course i could simply try to read the definition more carefully, but due to the timers i always feel like i'm in a hurry...

mlatu

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