Yay! How was your Thanksgiving? Did you get the e-mail about possessiveshis
Sent from my iPod Of course you can.
Sent from my iPod with gmail I hope someone does post the link to get there. Can I use my Refresherbraille?a
Sent from my iPod Annie, I'll get to that, hopefully, LOL. Maybe someone can post the link to the Lessons, the introduction to Lojban, that is. It is on the Internet, and is accessible with Voiceover.
Sent from my iPod with gmail That's what everyone is saying. By the way, if you wanted to write the punctuation left-brace in braille? Also, you still haven't sent me any notes from any of our Lojban textbooks. Remember, you and this group are my only sources for Lojban, because of technical difficulties.
Sent from my iPod The braces are there, I believe, to distinguish Lojban text from English in multilingual emails/messages.
Sent from my iPod with gmail How can quotes be letters, mimilarity symbols, and probably a bunch of other thingshis Besides, do you mean the word "left-brace", or the punctuation? Is "left-brace" Lojban because it doesn't look like it. If it is, how do you pronounce it?
Sent from my iPod Sorry, I made a mistake. Lojban long-a is {.ei}, not {.ai}. {.ai} is long-i. On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 5:04 PM, mudri <jammyatjammy@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm wondering whether I'm pronouncing Lojban's 'a' too high, and I can't find a comparison of [�and [a] anywhere. It was mentioned somewhere else that Lojbanising the vowel of "hat" is difficult/obfuscating. However, I find it easy to interpret a Lojban 'a' as a plain English 'a' (as in, recognising {la .kamryn.} is easy, but {la .nikylys.} isn't).
Note that my English vowels are from Yorkshire, meaning that the 'a' sound is probably typical of northern England.
I assume �s the sound of the "a" in hat, yes? I'm not sure what you mean by a Plain English 'a'", since an English 'a' has at least three different pronunciations even without accounting for accents, but these are some examples of words that- for me at least- have the same sounding as:
'a': hot, father, call, dark, far, pall, Iran (la.iran., not "I ran").... "� pat, math, pal, cap, ran....
"A": mate, pail, ray, date....
In Lojban, the first and last are zo.a and lu .ai li'u, respectively. The best way to render �n Lojban I can think of is lu .ae li'u, but that's not a legal diphthong.
Finally, .ybu isn't usually an "a" in English. It's pronounced exactly the same as "uh", and its sound is usually found as "u" in English words: putt, shut, rudder....
It is of course possible that these example words aren't pronounced the same by both of us, since I speak U.S.E. and you speak B.C.E., but it's my hope they are.
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mu'o mi'e .aionys.
.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
-- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
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