Not all the vowels are pronounced the same in French. I would know because I'm taking French, and so is Devin.
Sent from my iPod If you ever took Latin, or possibly any of the Romance languages, the vowels possibly excepting .ybu are pronounced exactly the same as in that language. On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 2:16 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry, I made a mistake. Lojban long-a is {.ei}, not {.ai}. {.ai} is long-i.
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 2:15 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 5:04 PM, mudri <jammyatjammy@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm wondering whether I'm pronouncing Lojban's 'a' too high, and I can't find a comparison of [�and [a] anywhere. It was mentioned somewhere else that Lojbanising the vowel of "hat" is difficult/obfuscating. However, I find it easy to interpret a Lojban 'a' as a plain English 'a' (as in, recognising {la .kamryn.} is easy, but {la .nikylys.} isn't).
Note that my English vowels are from Yorkshire, meaning that the 'a' sound is probably typical of northern England.
I assume �s the sound of the "a" in hat, yes? I'm not sure what you mean by a Plain English 'a'", since an English 'a' has at least three different pronunciations even without accounting for accents, but these are some examples of words that- for me at least- have the same sounding as:
'a': hot, father, call, dark, far, pall, Iran (la.iran., not "I ran").... "� pat, math, pal, cap, ran....
"A": mate, pail, ray, date....
In Lojban, the first and last are zo.a and lu .ai li'u, respectively. The best way to render �n Lojban I can think of is lu .ae li'u, but that's not a legal diphthong.
Finally, .ybu isn't usually an "a" in English. It's pronounced exactly the same as "uh", and its sound is usually found as "u" in English words: putt, shut, rudder....
It is of course possible that these example words aren't pronounced the same by both of us, since I speak U.S.E. and you speak B.C.E., but it's my hope they are.
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mu'o mi'e .aionys.
.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
-- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
-- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
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