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Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: [bpfk] polysemy of {nai}

I don't know where in chapter five the cll might give the impression that the bridi excludes the selbri in some way. A bridi is a predication, and a predication can be a sentence, but it isn't necessarily one. Much like in natural languages, you can nest "sentences" in Lojban. 
e.g. .i mi djica lo du'u lo mudri cu se fagri -> "I know that the wood is on fire."

The catch is that not all sentences in Lojban are bridi {.i ui} is a valid sentence, but it is not a bridi.

Strictly speaking, the simplest bridi is just a selbri, e.g. {.i citka}, as all the sumti are therefore implied to be filled with {zo'e}. But a bridi *must* have sumti.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

On 11 December 2012 16:00, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:
oh wow. what other dames do you have for that book? speaking of cll, it looks to me, from chapter 5, that a bridi is a sentence without the selbri. am i understanding this correctly because if so, why would you want to use a bunch of sumti without a selbri? the sentence wouldn't make s5se, it seems.

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On Dec 11, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry... I just think it's cool that it has a whole bunch of names and well, we're also known for giving long-winded answers for no real reason, haha.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

On 11 December 2012 13:29, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:
You could have just said "CLL".

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On Dec 11, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:

It's one of the CLL's many names.
* The Complete Lojban Language
* The Red Book
* The Codex Woldemar
* The Book

It's the language's complete grammar description. Orika Okrent, who wrote "In the Land of Invented Languages" says that the CLL is one of the most complete grammatical descriptions of any constructed language. Calling it "The Red Book" stems from the colour of the cover, whereas "The Codex Woldemar" which is just an overly fancy way of referring to it, comes from its author's name, John Woldemar Cowan.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

On 11 December 2012 10:39, Annie <park.annie@asb.gaggle.net> wrote:

what is the red book?





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