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Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Special reference, underspecified



On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 7:58 AM, mudri <jammyatjammy@gmail.com> wrote:
Isn't this a situation for {le}, as in {le se pelkre}? As I understand it, {le} makes the listener assume that the speaker is talking about something(s) known, rather than just anything that fits the description. .iepei doi jbocre?

The use of {le} signifies that the user is talking about a specific thing or things, which may or not be what the speaker is using to describe them.

For example, {le mustlei} "The weasel(s)", could be used to refer to the employees of a law firm, since, at least in English, lawyers are often called weasels.

So this is a situation in which you could use {le}, but you don't have to, as lo pelxre is assumed to refer to the most obvious thing it can be in the given context
 
On Monday, 31 December 2012 17:01:01 UTC, neizyn. wrote:
coi
.i mi'e neizyn.
 
Sorry, I'm just a beginnger! but I was wondering about a special situation.
Suppose there's a group of girls with one guy; I'm talking to one of the girls, and I make a statement referring to the guy without unambiguously referring to him by name or other reference. This is because he's the only person in the group like that. Say he's blonde. Is there a way I can say that "someone is blond" oooooor 'blonde exists/obtains such that x is blonde' ? Better yet, could I use that with some kind of reference? 

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