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Re: [lojban-beginners] Should/Ought



That really did help.a

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On Jan 6, 2013, at 2:15 AM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, January 6, 2013, Annie wrote:
Goodness! The concept of selbri is way more complicated than I realized.

When I started learning Lojban, I got the concept of selbri thinking of them as set definitions.

So {plise} is the set of all apples. {klama} is the set of those going somewhere, {klama be lo zarci} is the set of those who go to a store (a smaller subset of {klama}), {klama be lo zarci be lo zdani} is the even smaller set of those who go to a store from an house.

A bridi states that x1 is part of the set defined by the selbri.
This view made simpler for me to move on and get the rest, I hope it can help you too.

For those versed in a more formal reasoning, this interpretation is supported by the fact that relations are a subset of the cartesian products of sets. In theory all sets are equally important but in Lojban the set that is used for the sumti place x1 is given a special treatment, thats why my interpretation attaches the other sumti places to the selbri first.Note that this is exactly what is done when we speak of "bridi tails".

mu'o mi'e la .remod.

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