[lojban-beginners] Re: A question about the sentences understanding in Lojban

[mudri <jammyatjammy@gmail.com>]

Lojban place structures are defined and fixed in position (with the SE cmavo swapping places in a fully defined way). They can be found here. You can usually guess place structures fairly accurately, even as a beginner, though some knowledge of the general patterns improves things. A simple example is that almost all living things have a place structure of “x1 is an A of species/breed x2”, where A is the thing (dog, apple, tree, germ &c). vidru (virus) has an extra place, “[...]capable of infecting (at) x3”, which you would probably have to know somehow.

{gerku} = “x1 is a dog/canine/[bitch] of species/breed x2”

{lo gerku} = “a dog”

{se gerku} = “x1 is the species/breed of dog/canine/[bitch] x2” (NB: the placings of x1 and x2 in this are important. In {fa ko'a se gerku}, ko'a is a breed, not a dog.)

{lo se gerku} = “a breed of dog”

On Thursday, March 28, 2013 7:22:04 PM UTC, libi...@gmail.com wrote:

Thank you! I think I catch it!

I was mistaken because I didn't pay attention to the order of the components in the sentece.

But now I need to say that I still didn't understand the correct order of the words:

Is there any rule that determines what each placement (x1, x2, etc.) means, or maybe it should be learned for each word, or maybe there is no any accurate rule but understanding is done in anoter way (for example: according to the context), so that maybe there exist some different meanings to the same placement in different sentencs?

By the way, I was in a doubt wheather or not to ask this question in a new post...

Thank you for the help!!

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