Re: [lojban-beginners] Mixing tenses

[Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com>]

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:37 AM, .iuROK. <yurock.tengo@gmail.com> wrote:

{lo vi broda} says that the referent, call it x, "fits" the first place of the selbri {vi broda}, i.e. {xy vi broda} is true. Let's use an example.

mi catlu lo vi mlatu
I look at a nearby cat.

{lo vi mlatu} says that the referent (x) is a cat that is near to the looker, the reference point of the bridi. Another cat (y) that is far away from me cannot be the referent of {lo vi mlatu}, because {.y bu vi mlatu} is false. The idea is not that x can morph into y, but that from x and y it selects x based on their location.

Implicit temporal tense makes this situation a bit delicate if you are not explicit: {mi catlu lo vi mlatu} could be {mi catlu lo pu vi mlatu} for example (maybe the cat was next to me, and is now across the street).

Everything else you've said is correct, and if you pretend "is" is untensed instead of present tense, what you said is correct anyway. (This is a constant bother when discussing Lojban in English, Romance languages, etc.)

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

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