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Re: [lojban-beginners] Connectives & time




On 9 January 2014 07:18, Sebastian <so.cool.ogi@gmail.com> wrote:
Don't you think that {mi ze'e pu prami do} could mean either {mi ze'e pu su'oroi prami do} (="I have always loved you at least one time") or {mi ze'e pu roroi prami do} (="I have always loved you at every time" (whatever "times" refers to here)) or {mi ze'e pu ru'i prami do} (="I have always loved you continuously") etc?
In most contexts I think the latter is the most plausible interpretation of bare {ze'e pu}, don't you think?

I don't think plain {ze'e pu} implies anything in between. {ze'e [PU] PA roi} is a different thing. Per CLL 10.9, it is a compound tense, where the {ze'e} specifies the time over which the counting occurs, right? I would translate {mi ze'e pu su'o roi prami do} as "I loved you at least once in the past".

The {ru'i} is as plausible as it would be without the {ze'e}.

See also http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section:+Distance
 
{mi roroi prami do} could for example means {mi pu ze'u roroi ca ze'i pu prami do} (="there was a time in the past when I at every occasion had loved you for a short time").

Yes, it could.

mu'o
mi'e .asiz

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