Re: [lojban-beginners] how to use {fancu}?

[Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com>]

On 17 September 2014 11:23, Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:

As for (2): It doesn't really make a lot of sense to me to have a place for _expression_ x4 in addition to a place for the function. It's as if "klama" was defined as "x1 goes to x2 ... and has name x6". The place for the range is also redundant. It's as if "jalge" was defined as "x1 is the result of x2 among potential results x3", or something like that. "fancu" ought to have just two places: "x1 is a function of x2".

 In that case, I wonder what the type of the x1 could be. Is it a function in the sense of a ka abstraction? I would find this strikingly useful. Alas, that's not what you used for your example. I think I would have written it ".i lo ka makau jdima ce'u cu fancu lo ni ce'u se sabji gijo'u jai se cpedu". The major limitation here is that there's no obvious way to actually refer to the things themselves, so the place for the domain becomes useful with this formalism, since saying that this function actually applies to some concrete object would amount to stating that the object is in the domain of this function.

This also gives us a neat way of saying things like "How likely I am to do something depends on how much I want to do it," as ".i lo ni lakne fa lo nu mi ce'u zukte cu fancu lo ni mi djica co zukte ce'u" all the while avoiding lo-sumti altogether, simply talking about how these functions relate.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

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