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On 26/09/2014, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
If what you want is forethought be...bei...be'o, I would suggest you to use either { lo'oi [bridi+ke'a] (vau) } or { lo poi'i [bridi+ke'a] (kei) } (those are equivalent in meaning; bridi+ke'a means "a bridi containing —implicitly or explicitly— a relative pronoun {ke'a}, just like the bridi introduced by {noi} and {poi}"). As their word shape shows, {lo'oi} and {poi'i} are experimental cmavo. The former is just the full-bridi version of {lo} (and it belongs to an experimental selma'o LOhOI): lo broda be ko'a bei ko'e bei ko'i (be'o) = lo'oi (ke'a) broda ko'a ko'e ko'i (vau). This can be handy for building complex description sumti containing several nesting levels, such as {lo'oi mi kucli lo du'u xu kau do penmi ke'a} = "The one(s) which is/are such that I wonder whether you met him/her/them". As for {poi'i}, it belongs to the NU selma'o and has the following definition: « x1 is such that poi'i abstraction is true; x1 binds ke'a within the abstraction. » Example: {mi poi'i do penmi ke'a (kei)} = {mi se penmi do} (the ke'a pronoun stands for the x1 of poi'i, here it's "mi"). Both {lo'oi} and {poi'i} are currently supported by the experimental version of Camxes (this is an unofficial version of Camxes used for testing various grammar change proposals and implementing most of the frequently used experimental cmavo). mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |