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Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: "To have". Translation.

Is legal possession (ponse) the same thing as ownership? 

stevo

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:15 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:


2015-01-25 7:29 GMT+03:00 volcpitar <apeal@comcast.net>:
Given what is said above how would you best say the following?:

1.  Do you have a pencil (on  you)?  (I might need to borrow one)

Lo do terci'a vi xu zasti?

xu do vi ralte lo pinsi


2.  Do you have a car (with you today)?

Xu vi karce do?

xu do se kansa lo karce ca lo cabdei
 

3.  Do you have my book (in your possession)?  (I don't see it on the table where I left it.)

Xu do vi ponse lo mi cukta?

{ponse} is for legal possession. Usually {ralte} is again better in such situations.


4.  Do you have a house or an apartment?

Do ge'i se zdadi'u gi kumyzda?

{xu do ponse lo dinju} = Do you own a house?
lo kumyzda - apartment

As for attempts to fill in certain places they have their usage too:
xu do se zdani lo barda kumyzda
zu do se kumyzda lo barda
 = Do you live in a big apartment?

Of course, I translated your examples without trying to rework your own translations. 
lo se klani be lo se jinvi so'iroi zmadu lo se klani be lo jinvi
 


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