Re: [lojban-beginners] {trene3} is weird

[Stela Selckiku <selckiku@gmail.com>]

On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 4:35 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

What if a train moves from one railroad to another one?

It becomes a trene fi a different railroad.
 

All places of any given brivla must be inherent and inseparable. How can trene3 be inherent if usually train cars are constructed and trains can be assembled without having any particular railroad in mind?

It's worse than that: A train car isn't even a se trene at all until it's linked with other se trene to form a trene.

So maybe just give up and stop trying to have {trene} be a direct translation of "train" and just think about what it means? :)

It seems to me from the structure that what {trene} is talking about is the situation where there's a system of tracks (te trene) and on it run various chains (trene) of loosely connected cars (se trene) which are propelled around the system by some sort of propulsion system (ve trene). That's a sensible coherent thought, a useful thing there is in the world. It doesn't translate "train" or "train car" or anything like that, it only describes the whole relationship at once, you have to pull the pieces out with lujvo. Fortunately you get two really awesome rafsi for trene, -re'e- and -ren-, an end piece and also a middle piece with really meldy consonants, .u'a.

<3,
selkik

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