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Re: [lojban-beginners] Pronunciation of "o"

Thanks very much, that all makes sense :)

Perhaps the Level 0 Brochure should be updated as its suggested "joke" and "note" appear to be widely pronounced as that diphthong, which led to my confusion.


From: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com <lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, 30 March 2015 11:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Pronunciation of "o"
 
Timothy, I understand you are Australian.  if the link you provided is indeed how you pronounce "on", then it will probably be confused with the lojban "a".  It's closer to how that same website pronounces "north".  It should be basically be around either here: or here or in-between (always rounded lips) whereas a hangs around either here or here or in-between always with lips unrounded.

             --gejyspa


On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
You are right. Maybe this will also help you:

2015-03-30 15:03 GMT+03:00 Timothy Lawrence <timothy.lawrence@connect.qut.edu.au>:
How is the letter "o" pronounced in Lojban? Is it the monophthong "o", as in English "on"? Is it the diphthong "ow", as in English "own"? (It's hard to describe sounds in writing so I linked to spoken audio samples)

I ask because the pronunciation guide of the "Level 0 Booklet" seems to be indicating it is the latter, based on how I think "joke" and "note" are pronounced: http://lojban.org/publications/level0/brochure-utf/phonol.html
However, from the same page: "Lojban has diphthongs as well, but these are always represented by the two vowels that combine to form them."

I presumed the intent behind Lojban's phonetic spelling was that each letter represents a pure vowel sound and I noted that the pronunciation of "Lojban" on its Wiki article seems to indicate the pronunciation might be the former monophthong: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Jbo-lojban.ogg 

Thus I've been presuming "o" in Lojban would be pronounced as in English "on" and thus "ou" would be the Lojbanic diphthong to represent "ow" as in English "own". Is this correct?

Thanks,

Timothy

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