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Re: [lojban-beginners] Does the argument limit lead to half-ass words?


2015-05-16 17:48 GMT+03:00 TR NS <transfire@gmail.com>:
Sure. But I am not asking about the technical how to deal with it in the current structure of the language. Rather, I am wondering about a more philosophical question. i.e. Is "bajra" a real concept?

Lojban by itself doesn't solve philosophical questions.
It presents options and users can invent more options. Like you may invent a new verb that will split the reality in a different way.
 
Or is it merely a "partial-concept" that exists only because of limitations of the grammar?

My opinion is that {bajra} and all other verbs are partial concepts.
And this is not just Lojban. It's just that we can't transfer the total state of the Universe in a limited amount of words.

 
And if we were to make it complete, something more like `bajykla`, but with even a few more arguments, e.g.

    x1 runs to destination x2 from origin x3 via route x4 at speed x5 on surface x6 using limbs x7 with gait x8

How could such long predicates be manageable?

They are manageable in English. At least this is what Fillmor's group thinks. FrameNet has English predicates with 7 and probably even 9 places. You learn metaphorics of english prepositions that mark places through constant usage of English.

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