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Re: [lojban-beginners] "Notebook" (NOT "selbeiskami"!)





2015-06-23 13:55 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>:
On Monday, June 22, 2015 21:44:21 Christa Hansberry wrote:
> I'm currently working through *Lojban for Beginners* and writing the vocab
> lists and my answers to the exercises in a spiral notebook.  I want to
> label it "Christa's Lojban Notebook", or something along those lines, in
> Lojban. But when I look up "notebook" with my Lojban dictionary app, all it
> gives me is "selbeiskami"; I'm guessing that's short for "se bevri skami"
> which is NOT what I'm after. So, I figured I'd try to figure it out myself,
> since apparently the authors of Lojban dictionaries are such tech-heads
> that they've forgotten what a notebook is when it's not a portable computer.
>
> But now I'm stuck - Is a notebook a writing-surface type-of book (thus
> "terci'acku"), or a things-written type-of book (thus "selci'acku")??
> Originally, I wrote the former; it is a book that is a writing surface. But
> then I thought about the word "selpeicku", which L4B gives as the work for
> "manifesto" - and that is a book that expresses thoughts; one can't think a
> book! So now a notebook being a things-written type-of book, since it
> contains things-written, makes sense too. Though I'm still personally
> leaning toward the first one...
>
> So, in summary, is there a commonly used Lojban word for a notebook (a book
> for notes, not a se bevri type-of skami)?

I don't know of a commonly used word. I'd say "terci'acku". As to computers, a
notebook is a laptop of a certain size. I prefer "ploskami", maybe "paprybra
ploskami" for notebooks. "selbeiskami" is more general and covers everything
from a Raspberry Pi to an old model with a screen on the end and a handle to
carry it with.
Btw, this clearly shows that proliferating lujvo might not be the best option since those devices change too much.

Compare 手机 (literally "hand machine") for "mobile phone" in Chinese.
Even tanru + names of devices using {la} might do.
 

Pierre
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