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Re: [lojban-beginners] how to say "for obvious reasons"?



On 7/19/2015 10:10 AM, scottmtc@libero.it wrote:
I've been studying modals and I was wondering how you could say things
like "I did this for obvious reasons".
The best translation I can think of is *mi pu co'e mu'i tu'a lo li'armi
mukti*, but I don't find this very convincing since *tu'a [sumti]* = *lo
nu/su'u [sumti] co'e*, and I don't know what that co'e could be in this
case. One answer that comes to mind is that *tu'a lo li'armi mukti* =
*lo su'u lo li'armi mukti cu zasti*, but when you say that you did
something for obvious reasons it doesn't seem to me that you're saying
/I did something because a self evident motive exists/.
Can anyone tell me what I'm missing?

Depending on what you mean by "obvious" :
mu'i zu'i (for the usual/normally implied motive)

mu'i zo'e (for some plausible motive that isn't worth stating - since this is the default, actually saying zo'e adds emphasis, i.e "for a motive I should not need to make explicit") - this may be semantically more or less the same as your attempt to use co'e, but is much simpler

mu'i leka/leza'i ri racli (motivated by it being the rational thing - with reasoning not made explicit)

there are other meanings of "obvious" that would bring in different brivla instead of racli, such as sarcu, fadni, lakne, kampu, probably needing some sort of abstraction like I used in the racli example, but perhaps with different structure because of the way the places are defined

lojbab

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