Re: [lojban-beginners] Lojbanifying the Tranquility Calendar

[Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com>]

I'm really sorry! I hit "Send" too quickly :(

 On Friday, August 26, 2011, DataPacRat <datapacrat@gmail.com> wrote:
> Year names:
> * BT, Before Tranquility
> * AT, After Tranquility

 The first thing is to decide how render "Tranquility" that is a specific
 instance of an English word (and not just the translation of {tolxanka}.
 Anyway, we're lucky that both start with 't' :)

 Let's create a fu'ivla for such important word: {trankuiliti} and let's hope
 someone will do better.

 So for the purpose of the years, we can consider events "before Tranquility"
 to have happened {pu lo trankuiliti} and abbreviate it as {pyty} and events
 "after Tranquility" to have happened {ba lo trankuiliti} and abbreviate it
 as {byty}. It's unfortunate that now "bt" means exactly the opposite it did
 earlier, but so is life.
 Now,since lerfu strings can be legally used as numbers,  12BT can be {li
 parepyty}  (12 in past of Tranquility) and 31AT would be {li cipabyty} (31
 in the future of Tranquility).


> Individual days:

 "Landing" is another word that needs some work. Jonathan suggested {stagai}
 which is more like anchoring/parking. I see it different from the act of
 "landing" which (to me) is the end on land of a travel that did not occur on
 land.

 I could not think of anything better than {tumkla} = "x1=k1 comes/goes to
 destination x2=k2=t1 from origin x3=k3 via route x4=k4 using means/vehicle
 x5=k5".
 I know, every lujvo made with {klama} seems trivial and abused, but I
 couldn't find of a better way to indicate a destination (after all, we don't
 even have a gismu for "arriving" which is simply the opposite of leaving!).

 For these three days you'll need "numbers" too to be used in dates. Again
 I would use a lerfu string.

> * Moon Landing Day   ->  {tumkladj}       -> {tykydy}
> * Armstrong Day      ->  {armstrongydj}   -> {ayrydy}
> * Aldrin Day         ->  {aldrinydj}      -> {aylydy}

 For example, the Moon Landing Day,1970 would be li tykydy pi'e papyty

 I'm also convinced that weekdays names should be names and I like forming
 names with rafsi, so here are my proposals

> Days of the week:
> * Venusday              -> {venusyd}
> * Saturnday             -> {saturnyd}
> * Solday                -> {solyd}
> * Lunaday               -> {lunad}
> * Marsday               -> {marsyd}
> * Mercuryday            -> {mercuryd}
> * Jupiterday            -> {djupiteryd}

 Ending with "d" will leave less doubts on what those names do name.

 For months, I've opted for the sound "m" to end the names, to remind of
 {masti}. For months I would have loved to mimic what the inventor of
 this calendar had done (using the letters from "A" to "M") but i found
 difficult to adapt it to lojban due to the different sounds of letters
 and the missing "h". So maybe numbers would be the better options.

> Months:
> * Archimedes          ->   arkimedesym
> * Brahe               ->   bra'em
> * Copernicus          ->   kopernikusym
> * Darwin              ->   daruinym
> * Einstein            ->   ainstainym
> * Faraday             ->   faradeim
> * Galileo             ->   galileom
> * Hippocrates         ->   xippocratesym
> * Imhotep             ->   imy'otepym
> * Jung                ->   iungym
> * Kepler              ->   keplerym
> * Lavoisier           ->   lavuasierym
> * Mendel              ->   mendelym

That said, the date of your message (Saturnday, Brahe 9, 43 AT) would be:

{saturnyd bra'em so pi'e vocipyty}

And you could have said:

{lo cabdei cu detri lu saturnyd bra'em so pi'e vocipyty li'u}

> Thank you for your time,

It has been very useful for me. I understand now that I should study
better how dates work in lojban!

I hope you can find some useful element in what I wrot!

remod

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