Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: "He was made much of at school."

[Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>]

  Pretty good argument.  But there is one problem with that.  "la tam cu barda fi lo gerku" means that Tom is big for a dog, but it doesn't mean that he necessarily IS a dog.  He could be a chicken who is bigger than an average dog.  Whereas "la tam cu traji lo ka traji" means that Tom is both superlative and correct.

 

          --gejyspa

 

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:

see herein lies the confusion (for me anyway).  I could use a similar argument about lo barda gerku.  {barda} has an x3 place for the "norm" compared against which the object is big.  {gerku} has no place to denote size, so maybe it should be {lo gerku barda}?  I'm reductio ad absurdam-ing here so don't take this as a proposal that "the big dog" should be translated "lo gerku barda".  I'm just trying to get my finger on the precise way of deciding what the "principle" component of a tanru should be.

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Ivo Doko <ivo.doko@gmail.com> wrote:

On 19 November 2010 17:17, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote: 

  That may be the case in English but in lojban, we have the fact that "traji" carries with it a property piece, wheras "drani" does not carry with it a corresponding "degree" piece.  Therefore, it behooves us in lojban to make "traji" the main bridi in that case.

                        --gejyspa

Well then that.

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