Re: [lojban-beginners] "The north of"

[Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>]

On Friday 25 February 2011 12:47:48 .arpis. wrote:
> Hokkaido lies in the north of
> Japan.<http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/321285>
>
> (I'm not quite clear how one lojbanizes names, so I'll just use {la
> xokaidos} until someone corrects me).
>
> {la xokaidos berti lo gugdejupu} is wrong; it says that if one starts at
> the northernmost point of Japan, one can move northward and get to
> Hokkaido. my initial idea was
> {la xokaidos berti fi lo gugdejupu}, but I'm not sure the third place of
> {berti} applies like this; I take this to mean that Hokkaido is north of
> something in Japan's reference frame, but "Japan's reference frame" doesn't
> make much sense in the context of "north"
> {la xokaidos berti ne'i lo gugdejupu} is another thought, but it seems not
> quite right.

I'd say "la xokaidos. berpau la pongug." or "la xokaidos. bernenri la pongug."

On Friday 25 February 2011 13:37:11 Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
> {lo te berti no'u lo berti manri} seems to me to be better suited to
> clarifying what kind of north is meant: magnetic north? true earth north?
> galactic north? etc.

I agree. Basis of bearings, it's called in surveying.

Pierre
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