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Re: [lojban-beginners] Question about {roda}



As I understand it, yes {roda prenu} is saying that everything is a person (clearly wrong).  From what I've seen, it seems like {roda} is more useful when used with a prenix or {poi}, or when used with a negative selbri like {mi na djuno roda}.

And I believe the answer to your second question is yes.  It's ok to use {ko'a} even if you haven't assigned it to something with {goi}.

Think of {ko'a} and friends as like names for things.  I can say "I saw blah yesterday" without having to explicitly defining what "blah" is previously (or even in the future).

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 1:42 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm wondering about the usage of {roda} in lojban.  In English, at least, "everything" and "everyone" carry an implicit restriction; AFAIK lojban does not do that, which makes {roda} without explicit restriction either factually incorrect in most cases or useful only in very precise conversation.

This has gotten me thinking more about the semantics of {da}. I seem to recall that {da}'s binding has bridi scope.
If I say {da prenu} without a prenex, am I commenting on the existence of a man {si} person (to'i damn sexist language creeping in when I don't think toi)?
If I say {roda prenu} without a prenex, am I saying that all "things" in the world are people?
Can I use {ko'a} without having explicitly assigned it e.g. {ko'a noi pendo mi co'e} instead of {ko'a goi lo pendo be mi co'e}?


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mu'o mi'e .arpis.

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