Re: [lojban-beginners] Question about {roda}

[Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>]

2011/2/18 Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Michael Turniansky
<mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   roda su'ode zo'u ganai da  taxfu gi de ka'e dasni da
> (true or false, the claim "everything that is a garment must be potentially
> wearable by something" is an example where roda has its intended use)

Do you agree that "ro prenu cu xebni mi" is equivalent to "ro da poi
prenu cu xebni mi"?

Yes
 

Do you agree that they are also equivalent to "ro da zo'u ganai da
prenu gi da xebni mi"?

Yes
 

If you do, I don't see what distinction you want to make between
universal claims that use a bindable variable and those that don't.
The bindable variable "da" is the least important part of those
claims, it's just used for bookkeeping, it has no content of its own.
The content is in the predicates and the quantifier.

  
 I'm not asserting there is a distinction between universal claims using a bindable variable and those that don't.  (Unless I'm misunderstanding your question).  My problem is using a universal bindable variable without binding it, and then claiming it's something less than universal. "roda zvati it" when no, only the people that are expected to be here are, not the planet Jupiter, the mayor of Rio de Janeiro, or the Great Wall of China.
 
              --gejyspa

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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