Re: [lojban-beginners] "th" sounds in Lojban

[Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>]

On Wednesday 20 April 2011 12:03:20 Alessandro "Jake Dust" Andrioni wrote:
> (or in Portuguese, in German, in Spanish, in Italian, in Polish, in
> Mandarin, in Hebrew, in French, in Hindi, etc)

Castilian Spanish has a phoneme /θ/ which is written "z" or, before "e" 
or "i", "c". Andalusian and American Spanishes have merged this phoneme 
with /s/, though it is still distinct in morphology, in particular the "zc" 
alterations of some 2nd and 3rd conjugation verbs. [ð] occurs in Spanish as 
an allophone of /d/, and maybe in Castilian of /θ/ (both "z" nor "s" have 
voiced allophones, but I've never been in Castile to hear how they pronounce, 
e.g., "liderazgo" versus "liderad go...").

Some Hebrew dialects have [θ] and [ð] as morpho-allophones of /t/ and /d/, 
distinguished in writing by the lack of a dagesh. Ashkenazis pronounce this 
allophone as [s], saying e.g. "Shabbos".

Pierre
-- 
.i toljundi do .ibabo mi'afra tu'a do
.ibabo damba do .ibabo do jinga
.icu'u la ma'atman.

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