Re: [lojban-beginners] Possession with "le le ..."

[Jameson Orndorff <jtorndorff@gmail.com>]

The purpose of {cu} is to mark the next construct as the selbri of a main-level bridi. This word will terminate everything it needs to to get you to a main-level selbri.

The 'construct' you are working for is a terminator - {ku}. {ku} terminates LE, LA, and a few other things, and will let you terminate the 'inner' sumti.

lo lo ninmu klama ku tamne

mi'e .kribacr. mu'o

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:

I think the question though is, if {cu} means "separate selbri from preceding sumti" then, why can't you do {le le ninmu cu klama} where this is interpreted as: (something that goes in x1 of: ( something that goes in x1 of: (ninmu <cu so break out of this sumti and start talking about a selbri>) comes).

Ok, I don't know how to describe that better.  Basically, if {cu} says "ok, we're done with this sumti, now do a selbri" but that itself is happening inside a LE, then why can't the following selbri be converted by the outer LE?

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:06 AM, .alyn.post. <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 07:49:21AM -0700, Ben Foppa wrote:
> Lojban for Beginners says "...consider how you would say le tamne pe
> le ninmu klama 'the woman traveller's cousin' with this kind of
> nesting. You could flip it around as le le ninmu klama tamne — but
> then, how can you tell where the 'possessor' ends and where the
> 'possessee' begins?"
>
> I wonder why a construct like "le le ninmu klama cu tamne" wouldn't
> work, to separate the argument to the first "le" (which is "ninmu
> klama"), from the argument to the second "le" (which is "tamne"). Is
> the purpose of "cu" not simply to separate two selbri when they are
> consecutive arguments, or when one is the argument to another?
>

You can use {ku} to terminate the inner {le}:

 le le ninmu klama ku tamne

-alyn
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