Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: pregnant

["H. Felton" <fagricipni@gmail.com>]

On 9/11/10, Stela Selckiku <selckiku@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm back with some suggestions from some za'e fe'ijbo:
>
> * bavrirni, which could also include being about to adopt

That one might be worth keeping just to cover that more general
case.

> * pregundi, the sound of which is a funny coincidence, but I think
> "gundi" isn't quite right (reminds me of Brave New World)

That sounds like something that one of these people
( http://community.livejournal.com/cf_hardcore/profile ) would come
up with.  Either that or someone with issues about "welfare mothers
who just keep popping out one kid after after another".  I *hope*,
though, that that lujvo was jokingly suggested by someone who just
liked the coincidental pun of the similarity to the English word.

> probably
> "cupra" would be better, that would give "prepra" which does have a
> bit of a ring to it

I don't like the derivation from "cupra", either; though, it's not
*quite* as bad as "gundi".

I was about to suggest that "remna", rather than "prenu", would be
a better word to derive from; but I just remembered that many
species of animals get pregnant too.

> * something involving "tsiju"

I don't think that works at all; that would seem to imply that
either the womb or the entire mother herself *is* a seed; I know
that gismu are supposed to be broadly interpreted, but I strongly
believe that that's way too broad.

> but my favorite suggestion is:
>
> * bavyseljbe, very simply lojbanic and clear

I'd been thinking myself that getting the second place of "jbena"
into the word would be the best way of doing it; though, I wonder
if the "sel" should be omitted to create a shorter lujvo; in The
Draft Reference Grammar, chapter 12, section 9, it says "It is
common to form lujvo that omit the rafsi based on cmavo of selma'o
SE, as well as other cmavo rafsi. Doing so makes lujvo construction
for common or useful constructions shorter."; since "bavjbe"
(possibly needing a hyphen) would seem to be covered by "tarbi",
and "pregnant" seems to be quite likely to be a fairly commonly
used concept, we should favor the shorter word for a dictionary.

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