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Re: [lojban-beginners] More than five places?

yeah, but that's the {jai broda} construct that I'm comfortable with.

I've heard on IRC and such that here's a "tagged usage".  This is the usage described in CLL chapter 9 section 12.

After re-re-re-re-reading the section, I (yet again) understand tagged jai.  I just don't see it used often enough to make it really stick.

Hopefully this latest romp will make it stick for good.  Incidentally, the CLL really does a good job of explaining it.

For the nintadni out there, here's how tagged jai works:

Before the selbri, you can say {jai <BAI> broda} where <BAI> is anything under selma'o "BAI" (I'm not sure if you can put other tags in there like "pu" and such... could be neat).  This construct changes x1 to be a sumti that would normally be in the <BAI> position.

e.g.  {mi cusku bau la lojban} = {la lojban jai bau cusku fai mi}.

I guess the two usages kind of make sense now if you think of taggless {jai} as a more generic form of {jai TAG selbri}.  Leave out the "TAG" and it's just a generic sumti that gets swapped into x1.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com> wrote:
x1 broda x2 x3

jai: You know what? EFF that x1.
gau: Yeah, EFF that guy! He's a jerk!
jai: You could totally be a better x1 than him.
gau: Yeah, you're right! Screw that guy!
jai: Let's get him!

*violence*

fai: Guys, that's not very nice. Sorry x1, they're big jerks.
x1: Yeah, *sniff* it's okay I guess.
fai: Do you still want to be in the bridi?
x1: *sniff* That might be nice.


...and that's how to use {jai}.

mi jai gau dansu

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