On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:47 PM, .alyn.post. <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
What makes color superior to phonetic ('a', 'e', ...) progression?
What makes color superior to texture (smooth => rough) progression?
What makes color superior to temperature (cold => hot) progression?
Or, in a single question, is color sufficiently arbitrary, or is it
equally arbitrary to other sensation scales? I see your argument of
color vs. numbers, but what is the argument for color vs. other
sensory progression?
-AlanAhhh... but that's the beauty of color, it's NOT a "progression". It is a circle. So you don't have one culture saying "it should start on THIS day", and another saying "it should start on THAT day"...That objection aside, I have no preference for ANY circular, culturally unbiased system. It was just the first to be suggested, as opposed to number, which have a beginning and end, just like your examples, and "arbitrary" substance/diety naming.--gejyspa
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 01:26:51PM -0400, Luke Bergen wrote:
> Ok then, remove that one bullet point. I believe there are still 4 or 5
> other fine points (and one subjective one). If we're going to pick an
> arbitrary sequence for defining week-day names, why not color? Are numbers
> more sequential than colors on a spectrum? And it avoids the confusion of
> "5 day time interval" as opposed to "5th day".... and it isn't a cmevla or
> take up gismu space.
> Was your suggestion mostly a joke gejyspa or was there any seriousness to
> it?
>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Michael Turniansky> <[1]mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Luke Bergen <[2]lukeabergen@gmail.com>
> [3]lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com.> wrote:
> > Personally, the more I think about it, the more I'm loving gejyspa's
> skadei
> > suggestion. <after typing out a long paragraph with sentences starting
> with
> > "additionally" and "also" etc... I've opted for bullets>
> >
> > It has the sequential nature that a rational logical system should
> have.
> > It's very flexible for different calendars to invent new day words
> > without necessarily conflicting with other calendars by adding more
> fine
> > grained color words for more days to a week or more broad color words
> for
> > fewer days.
> Umm no. Much as I'm proud that you like my suggestion, that will NOT
> work, for the same reason as the original question of xorxes
> (paraphrastically "Isn't it confusing for cultures who use the different
> numbering schemes?"). If we all agree that today is xundei, then what is
> 9 days from now? The 7-day weekers will say "peldei, while the 9-day
> weekers will say "xundei". Standards are standard for a reason. My aim
> was to establish a standard that doesn't conflict with already existing
> cultural standards. And really, is there much variation in week length
> around the world currently? It seems that except for the 25 million
> Igbo's traditional 4 day week, we aren't stepping on many
> currently-extant calendrical toes here. And also (I say,
> tongue-in-cheekily), with the widespread availability of colored
> printers, monitors and copiers, we can save room in dates by saying, for
> example Oct 9, 2010 instead of "Wednesday, Oct 9, 2010" :-)
> Really, is there anything wrong with universal standards? That's why we
> have timezones, airport codes, radio frequency etc. etc.
> --gejyspa
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