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Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: lo preti be lo fu'ivla





On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Stela Selckiku <selckiku@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Geoffrey Stewart
<geoffstewart56@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That gloss was misleading

They always are. :)

> But if I dropped the S, wouldn't it be an invalid
> cmene, seeing how they must end in a
> consonent? Just wondering.

It would be an invalid *cmevla*, which is a particular shape of word.
Being a name is the only thing you can use a cmevla for, but a cmevla
isn't the only thing you can use as a name.  Don't worry, that's
obviously confusing, and it takes everyone a little while to get it.
:)  Consider "gejyspa", who you just addressed in your email, his name
is a lujvo.  Or consider my name, "stela selckiku", it's a tanru.

The fact that a name can be a tanru, like mine, explains something
about names that aren't cmevla: Sometimes they need more termination.
For instance you can say "la .bob. klama", Bob goes, and you don't
need a terminator.  

(Unless we decide to merge cmevla with brivla as .xorxes. suggests.)
 
But you can't just say "la tirxu klama" to mean
"the one named Tiger goes" because there could be a tanru cmene "tirxu
klama"-- someone could be named Tiger Goer!  So you have to say "la
tirxu ku klama" or "la tirxu cu klama".

(I've recently noticed a habit I have to dot any name, cmene or cmevla, like when I asked about your name and referred to it as .stela,selckiku. I've never really seen the point in requiring both a final consonant /and/ a stop, so I'll use that as my excuse for doing it. :) )
 
I second the suggestion that you should use "djefri", that's a really
cool name. :)

mi'e la stela selckiku mu'o

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.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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