Re: [lojban-beginners] Define "define"

[Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com>]

I like the idea of specifying a meaning.  What about something like "smuski" for "x1 defines x2" so "definition" would be selsmuski.  A "meaning description".  I guess there's a slight difference between "describing meaning" and "assigning meaning".

This brings up another question for me though.  In general, if I have a lujvo like {zanfri} and then I coin a new lujvo like {selzanfri}... would it be understood as {sel (zanfri)} which would be something like "a favorable happening"?  Or would it be understood as {(selzan)fri} which would be something like... well I guess I'd still interpret that as a favorable happening.  But my question is:  if there is a well understood lujvo with 3 or 4 slots, and then someone comes along and makes a new lujvo with {sel} or some such tacked on to the front, should I read that lujvo as {se <lujvo>} or as a brand new lujvo where the {sel} applies to the first rafsi and not the whole lujvo?

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:

There is always {zei}; I think {ca'e zei bridi} is probably a good lujvo option for "axiom" (the obvious competitor being {.aksioma}).

mu'o mi'e .latros.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

On Tuesday 11 January 2011 19:19:50 Luke Bergen wrote:
> so why not selvla?

I think to define is to specify the meaning, but I don't know how to
say "specify". We have "specific", but not "specify". We also have "ca'e",
but it doesn't have a rafsi. "ca'esmu" is glossed as "push-ing-meaning(s)??".

Pierre
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