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Re: [lojban-beginners] days of the week



You're right of course, "primeira-feira" doesn't exist, it's "domingo". Don't know where my head was.
Interesting too to read about these other languages.

--- On Wed, 1/26/11, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

From: Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>
Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] days of the week
To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 7:06 AM

On Tuesday 25 January 2011 13:28:06 Tom wrote:
> pavdei, reldei, etc... are kinda hard and counterintuitive for portuguese
> speakers (and maybe other languages, I don't know). Monday is
> "segunda-feira" (second) in that language. Sunday is "primeira-feira"
> (first), etc..

I've never heard "primeira-feira", only "domingo". "Domingo" and "sábado"; the
rest are numbers. Galician, which some consider to be a different variety of
the same language as Portuguese, uses words like "xoves".

Greek numbers the days the same way as Portuguese, except that Friday
(sexta-feira) is called not Εκτη but Παρασκευή, which means preparation.
Russian calls Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday by arbitrarily modified forms of
the words for second, fourth, and fifth respectively (вторник, четверг,
пятница), but Wednesday is среда, which means middle.

On Tuesday 25 January 2011 17:55:18 Lindar wrote:
> 1. Stick to the classic {pavdei} and just deal with the fact that it looks
> retarded ('oneday' rather than 'firstday').
> 2. Use the more sensible {pavmomdei}.
> 3. Use {pavdetri} as perhaps a more specific meaning.
> 4. Use some kind of naming scheme (that is not a direct translation of any
> natural language weekday name. Many of the existing proposals are
> translated from the French/English where they aren't based on the name of a
> God, and Japanese for those days which couldn't be taken from the former).

I prefer number 4, but I don't think the beginners' list is the right place to
vote on this. As to soldei/lurdei/etc., they're all taken from
Japanese/Korean; "nichiyobi" and "getsuyobi" happen to mean the same
as "Sunday" and "Monday". ("nichi" and "bi" are written with the same kanji.)

Pierre
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