[lojban-beginners] Re: "and" question

[rpglover64 <rpglover64@gmail.com>]

"wave lesson"?

As for your concerns about "malgli," I did _not_ mean verbatim.  I
have enough experience with languages besides English to know just how
poorly things translate verbatim.  What I'm doing is writing an
English paragraph (the way I would say it in English) and then trying
to convey the meaning in lojban.  One of the first things I noticed
was that "keep a journal" needed to be changed to something more like
"write a journal" for that aspect of translation to work.

What I meant by "my English expressions" was "what I am expressing in
English"

On Aug 9, 1:42 am, Lindar <lindartheb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Hi all.  I've been looking over the reference grammar and "Lojban for Beginners"
>
> I'd recommend staying away from L4B, and only reading CLL after you've
> gone through the wave lesson and understand as much of that as you're
> going to. CLL is somewhat out of date, and is not meant as learning
> material.
>
> > and trying to learn lojban by trying to convert my English expressions into lojban.
>
> That is probably one of the worst things you can do to learn Lojban.
> This is often considered "malgli" and is frowned upon by all speakers.
> Please make a habit of translating -meanings- and not -words- or
> people will be very confused by what you say. English phrases and
> metaphor, sometimes even including sentence structure, are highly
> frowned upon in Lojban. Using {sakci} as English "sucks" or {ganxo}
> for calling somebody an "asshole" is very bad.
>
> > In lojban, how does one connect two otherwise independent sentences in
> > such a way as to imply that they are related.  e.g. We went to the
> > store, and Sally bought fish.
>
> You want {.ije} as previous people have said. {.i mi dansu .ije do
> flira} or {.i mi finpe .ijebo do cipni} if you want them to be more
> closely linked.
>
> If you want further help, feel free to PM me on facebook, e-mail me,
> or talk to somebody on the #lojban IRC channel.

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