[lojban-beginners] Re: Usage of {vi}

[Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>]

On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 08:41:35PM +0100, lojban@65536.org wrote:
> coi rodo

coi

Sorry I didn't respond earlier; very busy.

> I have just worked trough "Time and Space" of Lojban for Beginners
> and have made some "observations", but I am not sure whether they
> are correct?
> 
> {mi sanli ri'i vi do} should be be "I stand just to the right of
> you." 

You mean ri'u, but yes.

> But the usage of the {vi} troubles me. Does {vi} really
> take an object/action/person and it becomes "here where the
> object/person is" or "here where the action took place"? It sounds
> a little bit strange to say {vi lenu mi jbena} - "here at the
> event to me beeing born".

That's *exactly* what vi as a sumtcita is used for, yes.  But it only
orients you in space, not time, and it is somewhat vague.  The jbofi'e
gloss for vi as a sumtcita is "near to".

> Apart from that, I think I have found some minor mistakes is
> "Lojban for Beginners", but I'm not sure wheter they really are
> mistakes:
> 
> 6th chapter/Time with sumti, file less6sumtime.html, first
> Lojban sentence should be {la jan. cliva le barja ti'u la daucac.}

The only difference appears to be the spelling of the name 'daucac', is
that correct?  In which case, why do you feel the name was spelt
wrongly?

> 6th chapter/Space, file less6space.html, introduction of word
> {ri'u}: the {.i} is missing in {la bil. sanli ri'u vi ku .i
> la bil. ri'u vi sanli}

Probably should be on two lines, actually.

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