Yann Le Du wrote:
Hello,I'd like some explanation on the existence of, and difference between, the following bridi :.i le ci le gerku cu blabi .i le ci lo gerku cu blabi .i lo ci lo gerku cu blabi .i lo ci le gerku cu blabi
Unless my knowledge of Lojban has plummetted further than I thought since writing that chapter, you don't want double articles here. {le ci gerku} is "the three dogs", but {le ci} on its own means "the three" (e.g. the holy trinity or the three rings of the elf lords), so with {le ci le gerku} you have two sumti. This won't work with "blabi", which IIRC is a one-place predicate, but if we change the selbri it becomes clear.
le ci gerku cu klama the three dogs go ci le gerku cu klama three of the dogs go le ci le gerku cu klama the three go to the dog
Also, it is mentioned in "the complete lojban language", p. 132, section 8, that on can omit "lo" e.g. "ci lo gerku" => "ci gerku". So am I right to conclude that "le ci gerku" is in fact the same as "le ci lo gerku" ?
No, for the reasons stated above. {le ci lo gerku} means "the three, a dog" (using the malglico shorthand of "the" for "that which I call", and "a" for "that which really is").
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