[lojban-beginners] Re: Just got my speakers back online...

[Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>]

On 9/22/05, Chris Capel <pdf23ds@gmail.com> wrote:
> However, you're right to be more careful about these combinations in
> Lojban, as different languages recognize different groups of phonemes
> as being allophones, and thus "trat" and "tcrat" (in lojbanic
> orthography) might be recognized as two different words.

Indeed. For example {catra} means "kills", while
{catcra} means "map-front".

> I do have difficulty if the 'r' is after an 'n'
> or an 'l', though. Spanish itself has those consonant combinations,
> though, so maybe native speakers use a different, allophonic phoneme
> for those combinations and I just never really noticed. Or maybe they
> just speak Spanish better than me. :-(

In Spanish "r" after "l" or "n" is pronounced like "rr".

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