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[lojban-beginners] Re: Subjunctive in Lojban



So would {mi xusra lenu la djan. klama le zarci} as compared to {mi xusra da'i lenu la djan. klama le zarci} parallel {I assert that John goes to the market} as compared to {I assert that John [should] go to the market}?

Or is the problem a collapsing of clauses in the English, since they could be expanded as {I assert that it is true that John goes to the market} and {I assert that I want John to go to the market}.

Even more lojbanically, these could be {I assert that the event of (John goes to the market) is true} and {I assert that I want the event of (John goes to the market) to be true}. When I expand them all the way out like this, I'm not sure that "supposing" quite fits in this case. It would for hypothetical cases -- the other major use of the subjunctive -- but I don't see how I'm really supposing anything.

mo'umi'e .alex.

On Feb 16, 2006, at 7:10 PM, Robin Lee Powell wrote:

On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 07:02:30PM -0500, Alex Joseph Martini wrote:
What is the way to express the equivalent of the subjunctive mood
in  lojban?

 da'i      UI3      supposing
                    discursive: supposing - in fact

                    (cf. sruma)

-Robin