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[lojban-beginners] Re: cusku balvi



Jorge Llambías wrote:

On 2/28/06, Stephen Simmons <ssimmons@pcisys.net> wrote:
how does one express the idea of
predicting the future in lojban? cusku balvi is the best tanru I could
come up with, but it doesn't have the right place structure;

"predict", "foretell", "anticipate" all use {purci} rather than {balvi}.
I suggest {prujungau}.
On jbovlaste I found "anticipate", which uses balvi, not purci (you created the entry). The others I did not find.

I think prujungau works in the sense of

le skami cu prujungau le nu le solri cu spoja

However it makes it look too definite, as in the knowledge is infallible.

Pierre's idea of balvi xusra doesn't require it to be a correct prediction, but only claims the person/thing making the assertion believes it to be true. This, in my case, would often be further modified by cumki, as in {balvi cumki bo xusra}, as in I have knowledge ahead of time that it should be taken with a grain of salt. Perhaps the same could be applied to prujungau, though I still think you need the "bo".

(Of course, the prediction comes _before_ the predicted, but the
predicted comes _after_ the prediction, so either {purci} or {balvi}
works depending on how you look at it.)
I agree it can work either way, though balvi fits my way of thinking at this point a bit better.

for that
matter, how does one express place structure in lojban?]

{sumti stura}?
Right

mu'o mi'e xorxes

ki'e
stifynsemons