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[lojban-beginners] Re: lojban-beginners Digest V5 #41



Is the point here to decide how {pritu} aught to be defined, or how it
currently is defined? This issue seems to be getting a little blurred.

mu'omi'e .alex.

On 3/9/06, der Mouse <mouse@rodents.montreal.qc.ca> wrote:
  la .iulias. pritu la mari,as. la klaudias.

3) Julia is to the right of Maria from Claudia's point of view.  5)
If Maria (or better someone standing where she is) were to face
Claudia, Julia would be on her (Maria's) right.

That leaves 3 and 5 as contenders, unfortunately, they often give
opposite results.

The definition as stated suggests 5, but 3 is better, because 5 is
ambiguous in situations where there is no up and down defined.

If up and down are undefined, so are left and right.

Yes, yes. I meant "externally undefined". Any person has an intrinsic
up/down/front/back/left/right defined, so a person is always a
perfectly good standard to use in x3 (as long as they are not in a
strange posture, but let's say they are not). So option 3 is
unambiguous.

But option 5 requires an external up/down to be defined so that the
hypothetical person that stands in x2 and faces x3 knows which way
their head should point to.

mu'o mi'e xorxes